bohemia: (Torchwood - Ravenclaw Ianto)
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The good thing about this is that I'm finally going to try Doctor Who again. The last time I tried to watch it, I think Heroes was in the middle of its first season. There's considerably more to catch up on now, but I really like Martha Jones and pre-S3!Jack, so I'm going to trudge through for them.

And that one episode with Ianto.

But lengthier thoughts!

Gwen Cooper is the most annoying person ever. I couldn't deal with her in the first episode and was hoping she'd change or get tougher. But for the first few episodes everything she does is wrong. Break this, say that, go against this rule. And then they have to pick up after her, and somehow Jack is still all "GWEN IS THE GREATEST." Never mind that the rest of the team is doing overtime to do their jobs on top of what Suzie left behind. And Suzie! I LOVED HER. I was hoping something would happen where she'd come back. And then it did! And then she was batshit. And then, out of nowhere Owen does this one thing to save Jack and he's the bad guy suddenly. WHAT WERE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TOSH, JACK. I hate the way that his logic was so flawed. In the very first episode they all do stupid things with technology they're not supposed to take out of the Hub. And they keep doing stupid shit but Owen's the one who gets called out on it. I mean, Jack did mention all the stupid stuff they did, but we don't get to see them called out on it. I don't even like anyone but Tosh in S1. But I hated that they were never called out on it. As much as Tosh was horrible at her job sometimes, she was the only one I clung to hoping she was going to stay around for a while. And quiet Ianto, who is barely there and does jack shit, really, suddenly has a cybergirlfriend and cries a river for her. I BARELY EVEN KNOW THESE CHARACTERS AT THIS POINT. WHY SHOULD I CARE. That episode is the sort of thing that goes down three seasons in when you think you know this character and then AHAH GUESS WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON ALL THIS TIME. But that wasn't even as bad as some of the other episodes (besides Ianto's crying. SO MUCH CRYING. EVEN JACK SHEPPARD'S IMPRESSED). The camerawork in "Meat"? All of "Sleeper"? "Random Shoes"? Yeah.

Also, I love how Owen and Gwen are together for like two episodes before Owen is BOOM SO IN LOVE WITH DIANE THAT HE CANNOT FUNCTION. And guys, he just needs to find her again! Which in turn I guess means that's the end of Owen and Gwen because after that it's all Owen/Tosh unrequited forever and ever. And it cracks me up how the flawed logic continues with the relationships. Jack/Ianto comes out of nowhere and Ianto honestly does NOTHING (before Cyberwoman, I was disappointed at how much he wasn't there because I wanted to like him! WHY AREN'T YOU AROUND, IANTO. And then he looks like a loner nerd with no friends and a bride of Frankenstein) and there was maybe one instance of Jack being like, "Hey boy~" before suddenly, "I'm just going to walk up to my errand boy who calls me sir and warned me about harassment and snog him. That's cool with everyone? Cool. Owen and Gwen, though, what even are you doing? Tsk tsk. Clearly the way to go is sleeping with subordinates, not co-workers." I was so against Jack/Ianto after that. They had a lot of explaining to do!

Also, omg, Captain Jack Harkness/Jack Harkness, guys. YES. I already ship Jack Harkness/Steve Rogers, but Jack/Jack is also a ship I will sail. I would assume I'm not alone because the internet and slash, but I never heard about this episode before, so maybe it's a tiny ship.

And then S2 starts and everyone is so much better. Ianto actually gets out of the Hub! Tosh isn't completely fail at times! Owen isn't completely a douche! He's actually better dead! How he does certain things while dead, I'm not particularly sure, but I liked the added supernatural feel. I hated the logic here too. Who gets to live? Will they bring Owen back? Rhys? Martha? Only Captain Jack has the power! If someone else is begging for it, no, sorry, they are gone forever. But hey, man, you need a doctor and some codes? I will finally go look for that glove we should've gone looking for and destroyed after the last one proved horrible. Let's not give his job away quite yet. Also how by this time Owen/Gwen is completely forgotten in favor of Owen/Tosh. I enjoyed it in S1! But then it got heavy-handed. And what happened to Owen being a flirt? He never flirts with anyone on missions or anything. That's all up to Jack. I did enjoy Out of Gas Fragments, as I usually enjoy those episodes. I'm upset they never did a rashomon episode. GUYS, C'MON. HOW AWESOME WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN. GFHDHDSGAWFSDFGULHIJO. At this point, Ianto and Jack had found their way into my heart (and also sort of past!John/Jack? I don't really like John Hart, but I bet he and Jack had some good times~) so I was all about their little moments, even if I felt like Jack still saw him as a boytoy and not actually his boyfriend. Ianto seemed like a puppy dog after Jack and while everyone made out with Jack in front of him and he never seemed threatened by it, like "that's just what he does," like he understood exactly what their relationship was. I liked that. But then there'd be moments where Ianto was like, *COMMENT ABOUT OUR MONOGAMOUS RELATIONSHIP* and then I'd get confused again. It was a nice try at something not so heteronormative, so I give the writers props for trying. It was really refreshing to watch them not be all domestic after one kiss.

Andddd then they ripped out my heart with Tosh and Owen fighting to the death. I have never been slightly spoiled by a score and then have to pause so many times during the scene because I couldn't watch anymore... except for how I had to eventually get through the episode. And then to know what happens in Children of Earth and know that's up next? ARE YOU SHITTING ME. I sat there for a good ten minutes like, "How do I possibly move on after this." It was pretty much like reading The Monster at the End of This Book all over again but with actual concern for the characters and pain in my heart. People talk about The Reichenbach Fall and say how that was sad, and how Third Star is sad and Cabin Pressure, etc. But no, this is quite possibly right after SGA's "Sunday" for me in saddest events ever. TOSHIKO. YOU WERE MY GIRL.

AND THEN. I was actually enjoying Children of Earth! It was a slight change of storytelling which meant less of the team, so I didn't like that too much. But it opened up the world and we got new characters, so that was cool. Gwen was actually a badass! When she shot out the tires on the operative's truck I was like, "WHERE HAS THIS GWEN BEEN." And I really enjoy Rhys being part of the team and not always being the boyfriend that's like, "Excuse you, my girlfriend is more important, I'm taking her away from here." I really wish Gwen hadn't retconned him about her relationship with Owen because I feel like he should know. He was fine with marrying her while she looked nine months pregnant; I feel like he loves her enough to understand and forgive. It wasn't the same series without the team; I kept wondering what the others were up to and then remembering. AND THEN IANTO DOESN'T EVEN GET TO DIE VALIANTLY. I was so sure that he died from a bullet wound or something, but no. He just slumps down in front of the 456 and if Jack'd been as prepared as Torchwood One he'd still be alive and just... dies. ARE YOU BLOODY FUCKING SERIOUS RIGHT NOW. I know he wasn't a all-guns-blazing dude (except for the times that he was) but that's how tea boy dies? THAT'S HIS BIG FINALE? ARE YOU BLOODY SERIOUS TORCHWOOD. WHAT ARE YOU EVEN DOING.

AND THEN. OH MY FUCK. Day Five. Nope. Ahahaha nope. Once that ended I went, "Fuck this," and decided I wasn't going to watch Miracle Day. No one is left. Jack is a completely different person. And I know he did some reprehensible things in his past. We've seen a few of them! But that was just... no. Fuck you, Jack. Torchwood is ready? WELL I'M NOT. GOOD DAY. I really like Gwen and Rhys but if I wanted domestic couples I'd be watching another show entirely. Sorry Mekhi Phifer and Bill Pullman! Maybe in three years when the pain subsides and I can forget that expression on Jack's face I'll be able to watch S4.

However, I do want to listen to the radio dramas. I already have Lost Souls from iTunes to listen to on my way home tomorrow. I'm trying to keep my spending money for, you know, eating so I'm holding myself back from just buying the rest of them. I'll have to check YouTube later.

I'm trying to also get into John Barrowman's music but I can't take his originals seriously and Gareth's Blue Gillespie is just hilariously bad in that they sound like Eric Balfour's Fredalba from 2007. I want to like them! I liked Fredalba! But you can't be serious. What year are you living in, GD-L. And what is that equipment. I cannae hear a word you're saying.

Okay, back to Doctor Who. I forgot how much I hated Jack when he first popped up. THIS IS REALLY WEIRD NOW.

Date: 2012-06-10 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thephoenix04.livejournal.com
I really need to watch Torchwood again. I don't even remember half the stuff you're mentioning. Oops. Lance hasn't seen it yet, so maybe we can do that this summer.

I want to watch Doctor Who again too.

Also, I don't know anything about the characterization in Miracle Day, but I heard from a coworker who watched it that it's practically gay porn half the time. She said Jack has a lot of sex. Which, considering that it was on Showtime, doesn't really surprise me much.

I hope you enjoy Doctor Who more this time around!

Date: 2012-06-11 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
Haha, that happens. I hope it happens to me. I want to watch Miracle Day--I saw bits of it on TV when it was airing and I was interested, if completely confused at what was going on. I just can't take the drama/trauma of S2 finale and S3 to deal with anything as intense as I know cable TV can be.

I'd heard completely different! I'd heard that he was turned straight and people were fusing about it. I mean, Jack is supposed to go every which way, so I wouldn't mind if he was with a woman at some point in the series. I actually expected more variance in his past loves, but all he ever mentioned was boyfriends on the show.

It's weird! But it's holding my interest more now, so we shall see.

Date: 2012-06-11 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thephoenix04.livejournal.com
Maybe it wasn't Jack...but I'm pretty sure that's who she said it was. I think that happened later in the season. Maybe he's "straight" in the beginning or something. I don't know.

Date: 2012-06-11 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
Yeah, I just looked up some fanvids for Miracle Day just to see what they entail and it's Jack. Although now this is intriguing me even more. Who's this new dude?! Bahhh.

Date: 2012-06-11 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giventofly37.livejournal.com
omg I am so glad someone else feels the same way about Jack/Ianto as I do. Because seriously, WHERE THE HELL DID THAT COME FROM. And Toshhhhh :(

But lol Miracle Day is...it certainly is a thing. It has its moments but mostly it's very cracky. Not good or bad, just cracky. Mekhi Phifer's character is A+ if you enjoy sarcastic one liners. I don't know, I feel like they tried to do too much with it and it kind of fell apart as a result. Worth a watch at some point, though.

I WILL BE HERE FOR ALL YOUR WHO FEELS.

Date: 2012-06-11 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
They sort of made up for it in S2 but yeah, man. This show likes to throw things at you and go, "NO, IT'S OKAY. WE'LL EXPLAIN LATER." Not how it works, bro!

TOSH MY BB. SKDSVJFK;AGRSUVCEWW I WAS NOT READY FOR THAT. T_T

Haha, oh nooo, is it worse? I feel like it only gets really sad somewhere in season four? Or something. IDK. When Donna comes in, at least. But man, TW was a direct hit to my heart.

Date: 2012-06-11 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giventofly37.livejournal.com
UGH yes you can't just say IT'S COOL, THERE'S BACKSTORY, JUST WAIT FOR IT. Noooooope.

IDK where you're starting from but there's some super sad bits with Rose (I'm not a huge Rose fan but even I was like nooo) and then the end of Donna's run is like a punch in the face. And then Eleven has a lot of feelings about a lot of things, so there's that.

Date: 2012-06-11 02:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
Even the backstory didn't make sense! He chased Jack to put him on the team and then just sat around making coffee and tea until oh, whoops, maybe you should get out and about as well seeing as somehow your boss is in love with you and you don't actually do shit. (lol, I have a special place in my heart for Ianto but seriously WHY ARE YOU HERE, BOY)

Oh yeah, I'm starting with Nine. I was super excited about Rose last time, but since then I've read a lot of things on Tumblr so that may color how I react to her now. I only really loved her because I used to love Billie's pop music, lol. But I also wanted to watch Primeval for Hannah and I can barely get through that show, too. British pop stars... they only get me so far.

Date: 2012-06-11 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giventofly37.livejournal.com
Yeah, some people loooooove Rose and some people haaaaaaate Rose. I like her well enough but she's not my favorite. *shrug*

Date: 2012-06-19 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
I was shipping Ten/Rose as bros for a while but Rose's attitude towards anyone else who wanted to come along was annoying. I didn't get upset when she left, but Donna reaaaalllly put me off. I'm glad there's Martha in the meantime because I'd have been kicking up a storm wanting Rose back if I had to go from delightfully useful Rose to sarcasm and useless Donna off the bat. The Doctor didn't need her sass at that point in time.

Date: 2012-06-19 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] giventofly37.livejournal.com
Yeah Donna's a little...difficult when she first shows up. But she does get better when she comes back as a full companion. She and Ten are the bro-y-est of bros. And I like Martha, I just thought she was handled poorly on DW. Ten is a real dick to her a lot :(

Date: 2012-06-12 10:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamwhitelady.livejournal.com
Reading this made me realise how few things I remember from Torchwood xDD I tried watching Miracle Day but couldn't get past episode 1 :/

Yay Doctor Who! Hope you like it, in all its camp CGI gloriousness (especially in the first couple seasons). I feel like I need a rewatch...

Date: 2012-06-14 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
I think it seems to have faded with most of my flist, lol. I'm running out of radio dramas and fic recs so idk that I can hold out any longer. But after CoE Day 5 I don't think I can watch (or even want to see) Jack be happy. :/

I've been so busy this week, but I'm enjoying what I've seen more than last time. I think before I was expecting it to be gritty like Heroes, because that's when I started to watch it, thinking, "Oh, here is another high quality sci-fi show that everyone seems to like!" But now I know that it's supposed to be campy, I can enjoy it properly now.

Date: 2012-06-13 01:40 pm (UTC)
splits_thesky: (who: double trouble)
From: [personal profile] splits_thesky
lulz, your thoughts on TW are my thoughts on TW, exceeeeept for the getting really emotional about it. ...and the fact that I skipped a bunch of episodes, and didn't watch anything after S2. But still!

Also:

Date: 2012-06-13 01:41 pm (UTC)
splits_thesky: (who: good cup of tea!)
From: [personal profile] splits_thesky
oh also also! imo, DW!Jack is a LOT more awesome than TW!Jack, sooooo. TAKE THAT HOW YOU WILL. ...also, you know, MOAR MARTHA, NEVER A BAD THING.

Date: 2012-06-14 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
Yo, I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS. I HOPE SO.

MARTHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. <333333333 If they'd killed off Owen and just thrown Martha in.... I'd have been alright with that. Although, does he always say that nightingale line when he sees her? Because he just said it in this radio drama and I was like, "trolol, this is going to get old quick if he does that EVERY TIME she's around."

Date: 2012-06-19 02:13 pm (UTC)
splits_thesky: (Default)
From: [personal profile] splits_thesky
awwww, I love Owen!! But yeah, I think I said something on Tumblr when I was watching to the effect of, "I wish the team could just be Owen, Ianto, Tosh, and Martha, and then Jack could just pop in every once in a while from where(/when)ever he's been off adventuring with the Doctor (Gwen and Rhys just need to go off and be married in a corner somewhere)". ...Basically, MOAR MARTHA YUSSSSSS.

But lulz, I don't think so...?? idk, I never really paid it that much attention before.

Date: 2012-06-20 12:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
I like Owen too! It's definitely not the same after he's gone, but like if Torchwood logic was real logic, I'd have been okay with Martha joining the team. I wouldn't have been like, "BUT JACKKKK, JUST RISEN MITTEN HIM." And lulz, well, Gwen and Rhys ARE off somewhere being married, now, FOREVER~.

I did keep coming up with other spin-offs I wanted to see more than TW, though, and MARTHA WHO was one of them.

I guess it was just that radio drama!

Date: 2012-06-20 02:05 am (UTC)
splits_thesky: (Default)
From: [personal profile] splits_thesky
Oh, hah, fair. Thouuuuuugh dead!Owen turned out to be a surprisingly good plotpoint, I thought!! Sooooo.

looooool, MARTHA WHO, what does that even mean. Like, Martha being a companion forever?? Or, like, THE ADVENTURES OF MARTHA BEING AWESOME WHEREVER SHE GOES AND WHATEVER SHE DOES. ....I would watch either, tbh.

Date: 2012-06-20 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
DEAD OWEN WAS SO DUMB. WHY WAS THIS A PLOT SCHEME FOR HALF OF THE BEST SEASON, REALLY. REALLY? REALLY? I mean, I liked still having him around but THERE ARE OTHER THINGS YOU COULD BE DOING BESIDES ANGSTING ABOUT BEING DEAD.

lulz, idek! Maybe she is the inspiration for Carmen Sandiego, who knows. (omg, headcanonnnn--someone she told the story of the Doctor to thinks, "Hey that'd be a great villian!" andddd yeah)

Date: 2012-08-20 06:09 pm (UTC)
splits_thesky: (misfits: maturity level = zero)
From: [personal profile] splits_thesky
awww, I liked dead!Owen!! It gave him something to do besides just being an asshole, anyway (which I guess was the point...?? soooo.).

Date: 2012-06-14 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
lulz, wait, which did you skip? DID YOU SKIP "ADAM" AND "SLEEPER"? IF SO, GOOD JOB. IF YOU HAVE SKIPPED "FRAGMENTS" OR "ADRIFT", PLEASE RETURN TO NETFLIX. From "Reset" on of S2 I'd say were the best and S1 had a lot of episodes I barely paid attention to, myself. After "Cyberwoman" it sort of does whatever until "Out of Time" -- although I guess "They Keep Killing Suzie" is important.

But dude, no. If I could Retcon myself I'd forget S3. AND IT'S NOT EVEN IANTO. I COULD HANDLE IANTO. JUST, JACK WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM. UGH. AHSDFAFESAAEGEW IT'S BEEN HALF A WEEK AND I'M STILL RAGING OVER THIS. OMFG.

Also, when he comes back in "KKBB." and Ianto's like, "Are you going back to him," or whatever? I DIED. OMG BE MORE JEALOUS OUT OF NOWHERE, IANTO. I'm shipping Jack/Ten and I'm not even there yet. Goooood timessss

LOL OMG JOHN BARROWMAN. STOP. Today I was listening to Blue Gillespie at work, right, and I'm starting to come around on them (even though when I picture Gareth singing I still crack up because GD-L ≠ Ianto at alllll), but then I got "All Out Of Love" stuck in my head out of nowhere and crack up laughing because what even, Barrowman. Like, if you're going to cover songs, make them GOOD songs, you know? Cheesefest all around, this one.

WAIT, WAS THAT RUSSELL TOVEY AT THE END. WHAT EPISODE IS THAT.

Date: 2012-06-19 02:19 pm (UTC)
splits_thesky: (who: am i....ginger...?)
From: [personal profile] splits_thesky
....uhhh. *checks Wikipedia* ...okay, I skipped the Weevil Fight Club episode in S1, aaaaand then - "Sleeper", "To the Last Man", "Meat", "From Out of the Rain", and "Adrift". ...I WISH I had skipped "Adam", though, GOOD GOD. STOP CRYING, IANTO. >:|

Dude, RIGHT. I actually like Ianto, when he's not so busy being all hung up on Jack! Then he's snarky and informed and not all that bad in a crisis, even. But when his Jack Feelings come around, IT ALL GOES TO SHIT.

looooool, I AM SURPRISED THAT YOU EXPECT ANYTHING BUT TOTAL CHEESE FROM MR. BARROWMAN. ....I was going to say, "have you MET him", but....no, obviously, right. But YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

But lulz, YES, YES IT IS!! He is mostly in a pretty mediocre episode, but I still got all excited. TOVEYYYYYYYYYYYY<33333333

Date: 2012-06-20 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
looool "Adrift" was pretty cool for douchy Jack and GWIN COOPEH BEING BEWILDERED (and my icon, butttt that's just me), actually. But otherwise, GOOD JOB ON YOU.

Wait.

WAIT.

WAAAAAIITTTTT.

YOU DIDN'T WATCH "TO THE LAST MAN"?

ARE YOU.

NO.

PLEASE PROCEED TO THE NEAREST NETFLIX ENABLED DEVICE AND DO WATCH IT. TOMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. UGH. JSAGFYDSGEFVEAWJDS;VSZEVW IT IS PROBABLY ONE OF MY FAVORITE EPISODES.

Snarky background Ianto is MY FAVORITE. Especially because he has those one liners that are like mine at work, that are sort of bombs just thrown out and hopefully the one person on the side is like, "LOOL I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO GOT THAT," because everyone else has moved on in the conversation. IANTO JONES, MY SPIRIT ANIMAL. There's a part in the radio dramas when Jack is looking at a cloud for some reason I forget and he's like, "OMG THAT CLOUD. LOOK AT IT. WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?" And Ianto chirps, "CANDYFLOSS!" and everyone moves on to the actual point of conversation but I was like, "IANTO. <3333"

lulz, well, I KNOW NOWWWW. OMG, I think I mayyy have to re-think my US Torchwood casting and put Nathan FIllion there. BECAUSE REALLY NOW. Or Misha Collins. IDK. I NEED A CELEBRITY DEATHMATCH BETWEEN FILLION, NPH, BARROWMAN AND COLLINS.

Ahaha, I loveeeee how many things he pops up in. Sherlock! Random Cumberbatch episode of Miss Marple! Who! TOVEY IS EVERYWHERE.

Date: 2012-06-20 02:03 am (UTC)
splits_thesky: (bh: i just want you to know who i am)
From: [personal profile] splits_thesky
lulz, I didn't even know what the plot was until I checked Wikipedia a couple days ago. But okay, okay, now that I have been able to take a break from TW and all its ridiculousness, I think I can manage one more episode! And if it ends up being awesome, SO MUCH THE BETTER.

looooool, TRUTHS ARE TRUE. Seriously, I wish he could have been that Ianto all the time. RTD WHAT WERE YOU THINKING


lulz, WELLLLLLLL..... : http://www.afterelton.com/blog/edkennedy/barrowman-nph-biggaybattle ; http://www.afterelton.com/people/2010/01/man-of-decade-results

Date: 2012-06-20 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
TOMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

The thing is he's not even that Ianto in S1! I remember reading his WIki page when I was cosplaying and it was like, "He is generally the comic relief," and when I was halfway through S1 I went back to make sure I hadn't read that sentence wrong. But then S2 happens and I was like, "OH, IANTO. HULLO."

looooooool I remember Jesse Tyler's tweet, actually! But now... I'm sort of upset that NPH won. LOOKIT THAT PICTURE WITH SCOTT. C'MON NOW.

Date: 2012-06-19 04:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
I'D TEXT YOU BUT MY PHONE IS DEAD.

THE LAST TWO EPISODES I WATCHED HAD LENORA CRITCHLOW AND BAMBI. OHHHH, WHO GUEST STARS, YOU ARE DELIGHTFUL.

Date: 2012-06-19 02:07 pm (UTC)
splits_thesky: (bh: so who wants tea?)
From: [personal profile] splits_thesky
omg, RIGHT. I WAS going to make a list of people I like who popped up on DW, initially, but -- THERE ARE SO MANY.

Date: 2012-06-19 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
Also, I keep being like, "When does Jack come back; I want to know why he got Torchwood!"

And then I realized I'm in season three and Torchwood was already a show by now. Dudeeeee, I haaaateeed DW!Jack so far. What is going onnnnnn, fandom? THOSE TWO EPISODES GOT HIM A SHOW?

*this has been another episode of Unpopular Opinions and Lia*

Date: 2012-06-19 02:09 pm (UTC)
splits_thesky: (Default)
From: [personal profile] splits_thesky
BUT NOW YOU KNOW (SORT OF, WAIT UNTIL THE S3 FINALE FOR A BETTER EXPLANATION) ABOUT THE HAND IN A JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

Date: 2012-06-20 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
lulz, I don't understand why and how Jack of all people has it? My mom was in the room when I saw that and I was like, "DID HE JUST RUN FOR THE TARDIS LIKE, 'DOCTAHHHH WAIT, I HAVE SOMETHING OF YOURSSSS'"

I also don't understand why he was so DISTRAUGHT when the jar broke in TW. Jack, wtf is your problem. You... are scaring me with this Doctor bullshit. Like, seriously, I think every companion probably has Stockholm Syndrome.

Date: 2012-06-20 01:56 am (UTC)
splits_thesky: (who: why hey there sweetheart)
From: [personal profile] splits_thesky
sdfjhasfkhjsdgiukdahsfjksdfh looooooooool omg, IT IS THE TRUTH. I mean, you can kiiiiiiind of see the reasoning, being able to travel through ALL OF TIME AND SPACE and all. But -- seriously, you guys (and yet another reason why Martha is the best! She knew how awesome travelling with the Doctor was, but she also knew she had to go have her own awesome life, for herself<3333).

Date: 2012-06-20 01:58 am (UTC)
splits_thesky: (Default)
From: [personal profile] splits_thesky
OH, BUT, I feel like Jack probably has more reason to want to connect up with the Doctor...?? Seeing as they are BASICALLY THE SAME (....the time travel, the [essentially] regenerating...)

Date: 2012-06-20 03:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
And here we have........ why I ship them.

Date: 2012-06-19 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
looooooool apparently Jack was in five episodes so far. THEY WERE ALL MULTI-PARTERS. IT FELT LIKE TWO EPISODES. WHATEVER, I'M GOING BACK TO CARDIFF.

Date: 2012-06-19 02:08 pm (UTC)
splits_thesky: (who: double trouble)
From: [personal profile] splits_thesky
looooool, I DON'T UNDERSTAAAAAAND YOU AND YOUR TORCHWOOD-PREFERRING WAYS. DW!JACK IS ALL OF THE FLIRTINESS WITH NONE OF THE RANDOM ANGST AND OCCASIONAL DOUCHERY!!

Date: 2012-06-20 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
lulz, well I never LIKED Jack in the first place. I just thought somewhere there was an episode where he was delightful but like, I'd already seen all the Jack episodes prior to Torchwood beginning so my opinion of him didn't really change from last time. ALSO I don't get how he was like, "Ooohhh, I've missed this," running after those future humans because like, dude, THIS IS ALL TORCHWOOD WAS. WHAT IS DIFFERENT. THE LOCATION?

Your icon, though, is my favoriteeeee Jack/Ten moment though, tbh.

Date: 2012-06-20 01:53 am (UTC)
splits_thesky: (who: what do you mean that's the doctor?)
From: [personal profile] splits_thesky
hahaha, awwww, see, I thought he was delightful pretty much from the second he showed up in DW!! Sooooo.
But re: the S3 finale, I took it as, he'd missed ~adventuring~ with the Doctor?? SRY, IANTO, YOU JUST DON'T MEASURE UP.

Date: 2012-06-20 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
looooool but wut abut GWIN, the woman who ~*~MATTERS~*~

Date: 2012-06-18 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benzin01.livejournal.com
I've never watched Dr. Who. Everyone keeps telling me that I HAVE to. I might try to find a place online to watch it.

Torchwood sounds awesome! I'm going to have to check that one out too!

Date: 2012-06-19 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
This is my third time trying to get into it! I'm liking it a lot more now because I have invested so much in Torchwood and I like the little hints about what they're doing in the background. And also now that I know not to take it so seriously as say, Battlestar Galactica (although I was bored with that one, too).

I have whittled out pieces of my day to spend with Netflix. It's bad, because now these shows are taking up my writing time. But in the end they give me new ideas of things and relationships to write about, so I guess it comes around.

Date: 2012-06-20 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benzin01.livejournal.com
I'm embarrassed to say this, but I never even heard of Dr. Who before 2 years ago. I'm such a bad geek lol. My issue is also finding the time to sit down and watch anything.

I write also, and I find watching shows can really give you some good ideas. You can see it as sort of like a "pre writing exercise."

Date: 2012-06-21 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bohemu.livejournal.com
It's definitely not one of those programs you hear a lot about normally.

I used to get a lot of great ideas zoning out during playing video games but I haven't had the time or space to play anymore. So I'm back to getting ideas and what if moments from shows and movies.

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